Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT] desulphatingbatterychargers

Jerry Rhodes jlrhod at paulding-net.com
Sun Jul 18 11:20:43 PDT 2004


Mike also check the ground, it should be neg on the H my 41 H is neg and the
manual says neg ground, and YES use face sheild, rubber gloves and old
clothes, good luck
Jerry NW Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT]
desulphatingbatterychargers


> Mike,  I assume the H has a generator.  If so it doesn't need a battery to
> run after it is started.  If it will not run without the battery or if the
> battery is going dead while it runs the generator is not putting out.  You
> can test it by disconnecting the battery after the engine is running.  If
it
> keeps running use a volt meter between the battery cables (with the
battery
> disconnected) to see what voltage it is putting out.
>
> As for the battery, dump it out, rinse it out and re-fill it with the
proper
> acid/water mixture to get the specific gravity right, give it a charge and
> see if it works.
>
> Wear eye protection!
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Miller" <sweetcorn70 at hotmail.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:37 AM
> Subject: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT] desulphating
> batterychargers
>
>
> > At the farm I work at, there is an H.  It is still on 6 volt.  The
battery
> > seems to take a charge, but it'll only run for 10-15 minutes after you
> > charge it and then the battery is dead(not even enough juice to make it
> > fire).  The battery also goes dead if you charge it up then leave it set
> for
> > an hour or so.  Is that battery junk?   Would it help it to dump the
acid
> > and refill it, according to what you do below?  It hisses and bubbles
when
> > you leave it charging.  One thing, when I first started this project the
> > electrolyte level in the battery was low in all cells, and the boss just
> had
> > me fill it up with tap water(I know, big no no, but he's a lot older
than
> I
> > am).  Could that be the problem?
> >
> > Now, I would say that the tractor isn't charging, and the boss says it
> never
> > has charged right.  Any places to start on that one(IE, how do I test to
> see
> > if it is charging??)?  I am not sure if they polarized the generator
after
> > they had it rebuilt or not.  It is set up on Positive ground, is that
> right?
> >   All my farmalls are negative ground, but the one has been converted to
> 12
> > volt and the other is a lot newer(the other has an armstrong starter).
It
> > could probably use new cables, the ones on it are pretty old.  The
ammeter
> > read "0" all the time.
> >
> > Sorry for all the stupid questions, but my boss's dad bought this thing
> new
> > and his son restored it so I'd like to get it running at least good
enough
> > to pull wagons with it.  I don't know a lot about electrical
> > systems(maintanance batteries in particular) and I'd rather ask stupid
> > questions that blow/burn something up.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jerry Rhodes" <jlrhod at paulding-net.com>
> > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [AT] desulphating battery chargers
> > >Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:22:51 -0400
> > >
> > >When I get them, they are "old" per the cart dealer, set out all
winter,
> > >etc... I top them off with straight acid, charge them and load test if
> the
> > >hidramer(?) reading is above 1220, if not, and the load test is no good
I
> > >dump them to a tank that I use for cleaning parts, I refill with
straight
> > >acid  and adjust with water to 1250, re charge and load test again.
> > >
> > >Then reinstall in the machine, normally they are out of here in about a
> > >week, i.e.. bought, sold, traded or owner picks up and I normally do
not
> > >see
> > >then again. I get my acid from NAPA.
> > >
> > >The ones I have in my EZ-GOcart, the Cushman cart and the ones ready
for
> my
> > >Cushman Truckster are about 7 yrs old, I rework them (18) about two
> months
> > >ago, the Cushman cart has been in 2 parades and 2 fairs and 1 feamarket
> (1
> > >day) and I just recharged them today (12 hrs) so they hold up well,
hope
> > >this answers your ?, thanks
> > >Jerry NW Ohio
> > >
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