[AT] desulphating battery chargers

[Steve W.]

All but the "Sealed" ones they rebadge for some parts places. Less
weight in the hauling vehicle, less chance of problems if there is any
type of accident, and much longer shelf life because they are not
juiced. My cousin was an Interstate driver for a while.

Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown NY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] desulphating battery chargers


> Right, Tom.  I don't know for sure, but I suspect that Interstate
ships
> all its batteries with no electrolyte in them.  I know the ones we
> installed at the shop had to have acid added to every one of them.  I
> never bothered to ask the Interstate salesman/driver whether that was
an
> option or was a company standard.  One of the nice things about that
is
> that the shelf life is essentially infinite and you don't have to have
a
> gang-type float charger with all the inherent corrosion all over the
> battery room.  We never added the acid to any battery until just a few
> minutes before putting it in service.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:11 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] desulphating battery chargers
>
> "Larry D. Goss" wrote:
> >
> > Huh!?  Since when?  A discharged battery has a weakened mixture of
> > sulfuric acid and water in it, but JUST WATER!--I hardly think so.
In
> a
> > discharged battery, both electrodes are lead sulfate.  The sulfur
> comes
> > out of solution from the acid so that the acid becomes weaker but
you
> > most certainly have no guarantee that the amounts of lead and acid
are
> > so precisely balanced that you end up with pure water.
> >
> > Gimme a break!  The chemistry just doesn't work like that.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > DAVIESW739 at aol.com
> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:37 PM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AT] desulphating battery chargers
> >
> > In a message dated 7/17/2004 4:59:29 PM Pacific  Daylight Time,
> > spud_thompson at toleartist.com writes:
> > Most people just keep  adding water, that just thins out the mix,
> > works
> > > > for  me
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > --
> > A  fully discharged batter has only water in it the acid is in the
> > plates
> > that's  how they work when you dump the water and replace with acid
> you
> > will
> > increase  the amount of acid in the battery to a dangerous amount.
In
> > other word
> > it is not  recommended to do this I know have seen a lot of people
do
> it
> > but I
> > have also  seen batteries that will smoke and smell of acid when
being
> > charged
> > from the  vehicle.  Most batteries quit because the cells flake off
as
> > they
> > are used  this is why there is a large open space at the bottom of
all
> > batteries. Marine  batteries have a larger space because of the
> rocking
> > of the boat.
> > Sulfated  batteries are those that have been left a long time
without
> > any
> > discharge or  charge just left on the shelf to get all sulfated. You
> > don't find
> > this very  often that's why you can only find a few batteries that
> will
> > cleanup
> > with your  desulfating charger.
> >
> > Walt Davies
> > Cooper Hollow Farm
> > Monmouth, OR  97361
> > 503 623-0460
> >
>
> Larry, I think some of these "shade tree" mechanics need to
> ensure that the trees still have leaves.
> Otherwise they may have heard of a hydrometer and dry charged
> batteries which need electrolyte added to make operational.
>
> Tom
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