[Steam-engine] Boilers / Repairs

[Jeff Smith]

Dan,

We do try to keep our responses to a diplomatic
fashion on this list, and I think that your response
is out of line.............  


Jeff Smith




--- Dan Donaldson <ddonaldson at tampatank.com> wrote:
>     WOW!!! Jeff, I thought that the politicians
> flip-flopped and avoided
> answering the questions directly but you take the
> prize. My original
> question was; if I replace the lap seam barrel with
> a full penetration, butt
> welded 3/8" thk barrel would I then be able to
> operate the engine at 150 psi
> in states like Maryland? You managed to avoid that
> question and instead
> proceed with a lecture about doing the job the right
> way with a paper trail
> and using a qualified boiler shop (you assumed I was
> going to take
> short-cuts) and then turn around and suggest
> replacing only the lower
> portion of the barrel because it would save work.
> Plus, you suggested
> another engine for sale, give prices and the state
> it is located but you
> don't reveal the name of the owner. I understand you
> may not want to give
> out that information but then why bring it up
> anyway?
> 
>     I appreciate the response and the feed back  but
> I still have not gotten
> an answer to my original question. Can someone if
> there would be a benefit
> to replacing
> the lap seam barrel with a full penetration, butt
> welded 3/8" thk barrel
> would I then be able to operate the engine at 150
> psi in states like
> Maryland?
> 
> Dan Donaldson
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Smith" <steamenginesmitty at yahoo.com>
> To: "Steam-engine mailing list"
> <steam-engine at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Steam-engine] Boilers / Repairs
> 
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> > The engine that Tom Crevasse has is a 75hp case
> and it
> > is not for sale unless he finds an 80hp.  That is
> not
> > the engine that I am talking about. There are a
> lot
> > more engines in Florida than people know about. 
> This
> > 60hp that might be up for sale has been in Florida
> for
> > about 5 years.   He is asking $30,000.00 and it is
> > worth every penny in my opinion.  It is a real
> choice
> > engine.
> >
> > As far as the lap seam.  Steam Traction (AKA Iron
> Men
> > Album) a few issues back had a great article on
> new
> > boilers.  That might be a good place for you to
> start.
> >  You will see in many of the photos that the new
> > welded boilers do not have a lap seam in the
> barrel,
> > they are rolled to the proper diameter and welded
> > together and then x-rayed and stress relieved. 
> They
> > are not lapped and welded together, they are
> similar
> > to a basic butt weld only following boiler code
> > procedures.  Why can't you just have the bottom of
> the
> > barrel replaced?  That would save a ton of work.
> > There are a few engines at Kinzer's like that. 
> You
> > can see the welds down the sides of the engines. 
> You
> > don't have to take everything off of the boiler
> and
> > align it that way.  I have never seen a boiler
> that
> > the steam area is bad, not to say that they aren't
> out
> > there, but usually the area above the water line
> on
> > all the boilers I have seen look like new with
> little
> > pitting.  Most of the time the dome can be saved
> when
> > making a new boiler.  They were going to keep my
> dome
> > and replace the entire boiler and call it a
> > repair..........    I thought that was a little on
> the
> > unethical side, but they said it was allowed.
> >
> > Jeff
> 
> 
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