[AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor

[Larry D. Goss]

Nothing except an internal overrunning clutch, Gilbert.  But, as with
most compact tractors, there is no down pressure on the three-point, so
it's always in a "float" condition.  Hitting a major impediment simply
causes the tiller to come out of the ground.

In some respects, that's really kind of nice, because if I wanted to, I
can tromp on the hydrostat pedal and the tiller will simply roll along
on top of the ground.  The transmission basically holds the tractor back
rather than propelling it.  I know I would never get good results with a
tiller that was hard-geared to the wheels.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Gilbert
Schwartz
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:40 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor

Larry; Does the Kubota have any kind of shock absorber in the PTO system
or
is the tiller maybe belt driven some way? I'd think that hitting many
rocks
would do serious damage to something.
I recall that some time in the early 60's some IH and JD dealers around
here
tried to promote big tillers on big tractors to farmers. Don't recall
what
numbers the IH tractors were but the JD tractors were in the 4010 era.
The
tillers ate up the tractor PTO drives and tiller gear boxes quite
regularly
and the tiller use stopped for regular farming. Part of the problem may
have
been rock but I doubt it because the ones I knew about were in buckshot
gumbo bottom ground. Gil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor


> Hey, Cecil, my B7100 Kubota is rated at around 18 HP and I run a
50-inch
> tiller on it.  Yes, I do go slowly, but I also end up turning sod into
> seedbed in a single pass.  I took it over to the church this spring
and
> used the tiller as a scarifier to recondition a gravel driveway.  So I
> know how stones will jolt you.
>
> When I found this tiller, I knew I didn't want to buy it if it
wouldn't
> work on my tractor, so I loaded the Kubota up and visited with the PO.
> We hooked it up and I took off through his garden patch where the corn
> had just finished.  It tilled everything under.  The PO had been using
> it on a Ford 800 and not been happy with its results.  He was darn
near
> in a state of shock to see how well it worked on my tractor.  I just
put
> the tractor on cruise control and let the tiller do its thing.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil E
> Monson
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:49 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor
>
> > Charlie; I'm with you on that horsepower being a misprint. 3
spindle,
> 60
> > inch just don't fit with 7 1/4 hp, at any speed.
> > C.H. Wendel says the AC B10 was the earliest, built through 1968 and
> it used
> > a 9 h.p. B&S. Wendel's book also pictures one of the B10's working
> with a
> > 32 inch roto-tiller. That too sounds like a mighty big load for a 9
> h.p.
> > engine, especially if the tiller is in the dirt.
> > Maybe the h.p. ratings are different now than in the 60's. Gil
>
>
> I  also doubt that any 9 hp engine can handle a 32 inch
> rototiller.
> I just bought a 48" Kubota and it is rated 20 to 30 horsepower and
even
> then
> I think the tractor had better be able to really creeeeeeep along.
I'll
> bet
> the stones in our soil here really jolt a small tractor when you hit
> them.
>
> Cecil
> -- 
> The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder
> what you said.
>
> Cecil E Monson
> Lucille Hand-Monson
> Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
>
> Allis Chalmers tractors and equipment
>
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