[AT] Starting over

Thu Jul 1 05:02:01 PDT 2004

Not to throw water on the fire but ...

I've used Mozilla (the original suite of products - browser, email, etc.)
since version 1.1 (now using ver 1.7) and there are many things I like
about it but it doesn't stop spyware.  It will stop the current home page
hijacks since they are pointed to IE and I do like the pop-up blocker and
the tabbed browsing but I wouldn't count on it being a more secure product
than IE - just less used and because of this less noticed by the "bad
guys".  Again I've used Morilla products for 3 or 4 years now and I like
them but I wouldn't get all wound up by the "fluff" that is written.  Safe
computing requires vigilance and knowledge and just selection of a
particular product.

David

> You can also download and run Mozilla FireFox (www.mozilla.org)
> instead of IE, which would stop 99% of the current spyware problems
> that are currently going on out in the "wild".
>
> All fo the spyware issues I have seen lately are tied directly to
> IE.....
>
> Howard
>
> On 1 Jul 2004 at 4:26, David Bruce wrote:
>
>> Charlie,
>> Something you may want to try is the system restore feature in XP.  It
>> will allow you to return to a configuration used before the spyware
>> hit.
>>   Of course you need a good idea of what the "last known good
>> configuration" that would eliminate the spyware would be.  I've used
>> the system restore a couple of times to fix things and all I lost,
>> beside the problem, were programs installed after the configuration
>> date.  I didn't lose any data files or any email that come in
>> afterward.  Of course, YMMV. Hope this helps you.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> charlie hill wrote:
>>
>> > I hope you guys don't get into what I've been going through the last
>> 2 days. I accidentally clicked a link to a site the other night and
>> it loaded a bunch of very tough spyware on my system including three
>> trojans that got past my virus software somehow.  They are
>> > Blazefind.A, Delf.RA and Alchemic.A.   All of them are fairly mild
>> but they are spyware trojans that redirect your browser.
>> >
>> > I have run Trend Micro's house call to find the Trojans,  AdAware,
>> SpyBot Search and destroy, Spy Sweeper, and CCleaner several times.
>> I get it all cleaned up and then BOOM there they are again. I
>> > thought I had it licked but I am still getting a redirect everytime
>> I go on the web with IE.
>> >
>> > Now I'm going to have to go to Windows Explorer and look for a newly
>> installed exe program that must be there sending me to the pop ups.
>> >  What a pain.  I'd like to hang the hacker that caused all this.
>> > The only way I can stop it is to reset XP to a reset point before I
>> went to that site.   I could do that and just let it be I guess but
>> I want whatever it is off my system for good.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <CWI47 at comcast.net>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:24
>> PM Subject: Re: [AT] Starting over
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>AdAware is Free, CCleaner is free, Spybot is Free, Clean-Up is free.
>> >> And your problem IS? John Cable CABLEKNIVES of GR Grand Rapids, MI
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: <pga2 at hot1.net> To: "Antique
>> tractor email discussion group"
>> >
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:57 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: [AT] Starting over
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>I have SpyBot loaded as well, but I use it very little. I use
>> AdAware to
>> >>
>> >>get rid
>> >>
>> >>>of spyware on my system. It gives me the choice of what to dump,
>> and
>> >
>> > tells
>> >
>> >>me what
>> >>
>> >>>each item is. I also use Zone Alarm Pro, but I still get the
>> >>>spyware
>> >
>> > from
>> >
>> >>browsing
>> >>
>> >>>the web. No single program will protect you. A lot of these spyware
>> >
>> > tools
>> >
>> >>have
>> >>
>> >>>found ways around the firewall protections and are reporting back
>> to
>> >>
>> >>"momma",
>> >>
>> >>>even though the firewall is supposed to stop them. I have a 40 Gig
>> HDD
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> >>find
>> >>
>> >>>that to be plenty of space for me. I just don't store everything on
>> my
>> >>
>> >>hard drive.
>> >>
>> >>>I archive most of my pictures to CD-R.
>> >>>
>> >>>Phil
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Farmer when using Spybot you have to very careful not to discard
>> >>
>> >>something
>> >>
>> >>>>that you need I looked at the program and for the few minor things
>> >
>> > that
>> >
>> >>I could
>> >>
>> >>>> get rid of I found it awaste of time. i know others will
>> >>>> dissagree
>> >
>> > but
>> >
>> >>I
>> >>
>> >>>>have an  80 gig hard drive and about 50 or 60 gig of free space so
>> the
>> >>
>> >>little bit
>> >>
>> >>>>that  this stuff takes up is not much of a worry I run Zone Alarm
>> to
>> >>
>> >>prtect
>> >>
>> >>>>against  most bad things and people I believe thats one of the
>> best
>> >
>> > ways
>> >
>> >>and
>> >>
>> >>>>its  free.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Walt  Davies
>> >>>
>> >>>
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