That is all fine and dandy but the hills are so steep here we would have too bale up and down and it takes a D4 to pull the press alone. Tom Armstrong toma at sangregorio.org San Gregorio, CA s. 1892 Barnyard Technology--- Ideas for tomorrow -> from yesterday's scrap. 4th, 5th, 6th generation on family farm. Can Ag Sustain? http://www.sangregorio.org/