[AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder

[Robinson]

	This idea of not having the kill switch in the kill
position is new to me. I would never dream of leaving
it in the running position. I recall clearly an Allis
dealer mechanic watching very carefully at the County
Fair that none of the kids looking at a new Allis
WD-45-D moved the throttle lever from the locked kill
position to the run position. I asked him why and he
said that it could start by itself in the run position
especially if it had just been run. I had never been
around diesels back then but I always remembered his
warning and when we got a diesel I always double
checked the kill switch. Still do.
	We (Scott and I) have a standard basic shut down
procedure. You turn off the switch or pull the kill
control. Next you take it out of gear. Finally you
"ALWAYS" set the brake... When starting the clutch is
always disengaged first. Even with the clutch
disengaged you still "shake hands" with the gear shift
and put it in neutral first.
	I could have an accident tomorrow but proper habits
will go a long way toward keeping you safe. The key
word there is "habit". Don't count on thinking about
it, something might distract you. Make it a habit...
	I see guys start tractors in gear at maybe 40% of the
auctions I go to. Scares the hell out of me that their
habits are that bad. Years ago a guy here started one
from the ground without checking the gear shift and
managed to get out of the way of the tractor only to
have it run over and kill his very young son. A real
mess. Be careful out there guys. The life you save
might be more important than your own...





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Francis Robinson
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>On Behalf Of Michael P.
>Maynard
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:32 PM
>To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
>Subject: RE: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder
>
>
>Ralph, he wasn't saying anything about a
>starter switch at all....  His
>post was saying that even without any
>electrical devices turned on, his
>diesel will start by pop-starting...  There
>isn't any safety switch that
>would fit his instance.  It seems there
>would have to be some sort of
>electrical fuel disconnect to solve his problem.
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Ralph Goff
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:44 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder
>
>Robert, I'm a little surprised that a 1995
>tractor would not have a
>neutral
>safety start switch built right in to the
>system. Most tractors have had
>it
>for years starting back in the 60s.
>Occasionally they do fail and need
>to be
>replaced. The one on my 730 Case works and
>its 40 years old. Got to have
>both shifters in neutral before the starter
>will work.
>
>Ralph in Sask.
>http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/lgoff/latestpage.html
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: R Mull <rbobmull at comcast.net>
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:02 PM
>Subject: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder
>
>
>> I have not ever seen this reminder on the
>list. We have a 1995
>Agco-Allis
>> 5670 diesel and I was wondering if it
>would roll start with the key
>switch
>> in the off position. I tried it today and
>the answer is yes! It has a
>pull
>> knob to stop the engine. If that knob is
>not pulled out , and you
>accidently
>> depress the clutch and let it out while
>the tractor is rolling it will
>start
>> very easy. Sometimes we stop the engine on
>the tractor on a hill (to
>get
>off
>> and hook a chain to a log, etc.). This
>could be a real unsafe
>condition if
>> the engine decides to turn over a couple
>of revolutions. Also if a
>child
>was
>> to climb into the seat and pushed in the
>clutch pedal.
>>
>> I would think that there are other models
>and makes that will do the
>same
>> thing.
>>
>> This tractor has a parking brake, but we
>are not in the habit of using
>it(
>> hard to release it with the large stomachs
>and  stiff muscles that  my
>Dad
>> and I have.
>>
>> An Antique tractor with a magneto that
>doesn't have a kill switch
>could
>also
>> do this.
>>
>> Dad and I talked at length about this
>today and both of us are sure
>that
>we
>> will take the necessary precautions in the future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert Mull
>> Woodstock, Georgia
>>
>>
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