[AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

Sat Dec 4 17:46:18 PST 2004

I will keep my eyes open for a 4 row for you. I didn't even know they made a 
4 row. Dad had a 3 row cultivator and corn planter. The cultivator burned up 
in a barn fire caused by lightning. The corn planter was stored in another 
barn. He managed to use the 3 row planter by tying 1 of the rows up and 
using only the remaining 2. Ever try to cultivate with a 2 row cultivator 
when the corn was planted with a 3 row planter?
I do recall your article. Unfortunately I don't remember the details. Little 
senior moment problem. Another reason I am not locating a bean tractor is I 
have also been searching for a 37 B. (year of my birth)
Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??


> Charlie
> Bean tractors were manufactured from 1931 to 1935. If you recall the 
> article I wrote for Two-Cylinder a few years ago, I estimated there were 
> 120 built. There are more than 120 bean axles around because the bean axle 
> was furnished whenever someone ordered a repair axle.
>
> You need to widen your search for a bean tractor. I have talked to people 
> who grew up thinking all GP tractors had the wide front axle because they 
> never saw anything else. You need to look to the East where edible beans 
> were grown.
>
> I understand your frustration. I cannot find a four-row cultivator. In 
> fact, as far as I know, there is only one in existance. There should have 
> been as many cultivators built as there were bean tractors. Where are 
> they?
>
> Paul  O
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>
>
>> Funny, if most were shipped to Michigan how come I can't find one? I know 
>> your correct on that however. What years were bean tractors manufactured? 
>> I have been told that some standards were converted also. I am not sure 
>> but what my dad's was. Unfortunately I don't have that tractor. I sure 
>> wish I did but at the time he let it go I had no interest in it.
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>> Charlie
>>> As far as I know, most if not all, bean tractors were shipped to 
>>> Michigan. Of course there could have been one or  more exceptions. Also, 
>>> in the last few years, everyone knows tractors have been shipped to all 
>>> points around the country. Unfortunately, we cannot learn anything about 
>>> bean tractors built prior to 1934 from the archives . Records of bean 
>>> options were not kept in 1931-2-3.
>>>
>>> Paul O
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>> Is it unusual for a bean tractor to end up in California? I thought 
>>>> that most were native to this part of the country.
>>>> John, congratulations on your find. Wish I could locate one.
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>> The serial number on your GP is in the correct range for a bean 
>>>>> tractor. Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing seat. Also, 
>>>>> all bean tractors had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from one 
>>>>> chain case to the other. The horizontal part was located just under 
>>>>> the platform. The top of the vertical "legs" shows just above the 
>>>>> platform. The rear wheels were mounted for the widest possible tread 
>>>>> width. I would be interested in hearing from you as to what you find. 
>>>>> I am keeping a roster of all the bean tractors I hear about. Please 
>>>>> let me know the results if you have its' ship destination researched. 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Paul O
>>>>> P.S. I would like to know what those California lugs looked like.
>>>>> PO
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere" <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for and
>>>>>> bought a GP on full steel with beautiful Schmeiser
>>>>>> (locally produced here in CA)lugs. Unfortunately, it
>>>>>> had not run since 1955 and someone removed the hood,
>>>>>> magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts above
>>>>>> the engine, then loosened the head. It had been out in
>>>>>> the weather that way for who knows how many years, so
>>>>>> the engine is probably in pretty rough shape. We
>>>>>> picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough one to
>>>>>> load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was starting to
>>>>>> grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down the
>>>>>> tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake was
>>>>>> rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn. On top
>>>>>> of that I couldnt get any closer than about a hundred
>>>>>> yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it up and
>>>>>> onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along all
>>>>>> the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks both
>>>>>> outside and now inside the shop where Matt started to
>>>>>> do some investigating into its condition. I was out in
>>>>>> the shop looking for something else tonight when the
>>>>>> front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider than a
>>>>>> normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the axle,
>>>>>> instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on me that
>>>>>> this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting # C1878R,
>>>>>> which as far as I can determine from the parts
>>>>>> catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything else I
>>>>>> should be looking for? It appears to have a standard
>>>>>> drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am proud
>>>>>> of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping he
>>>>>> might be following somewhat in the old man's
>>>>>> footsteps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Boehm
>>>>>> Woodland, CA
>>>>>> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>>>
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