[Farmall] 1967 International-Courtney V

[Guy Fay]

I find it remarkable that I've been answering questions about this 
tractor for two and a half years, actually. Now maybe it was someone 
else asking the same questions about the same tractor, I don't know. 
Sounds like the secretary, and the owners of the other tractor, may 
have been asking me questions and not passing those anwers along to 
you.

Industrial tractors built to different specifications than were 
available to regular customers ARE common. They don't necessasaraly 
show up in the parts books. Just because it says "2424" doesn't mean 
that it is the 2424 that was sold to dealers. IH created a special 
specification sheets for these tractors, which were fleet buys.

Tractors going to the military are the best examples of this, 
particularaly tractors sold to the U.S. Air Force. Air Force tractors 
often had different transmissions due to aircraft towing, which pretty 
much requires torque converters. J.I. Case often was the biggest 
supplier of these, but other companies got into the act. For more 
about the Case tractors and the Air Force tractors in general, see the 
ASAE Case book covering 1955 and up.

This tractor is not a prototype. Prototype IH industrial tractors of 
this vintage will have a Q- or possibly QFE- serial number.

I have never, ever, heard of "boxloads of documents hauled to 
dumpsters by disgruntled workers". In fact, "archived" material held 
in Chicago HQ would have been quite safe. Materials at Hinsdale were 
destroyed to clear space, as was the same in Libertyville.

I have answered identical questions about this, and possibly a second 
identical, tractor for two and a half years, if not more. Where are 
the answers going?

I've probably dealt with 25-50 similar situations on industrial 
tractors- while your particular tractor may be "rare", "rare" 
industrial tractors aren't uncommon at all. In fact, I sometimes doubt 
whether there's two alike.

>  Guy Fay & Mike Schmudlach, Guy-While I realise you 
are "knowledgeable, you didn't offer me any info other than to say 
that the tractor is no big deal.  It may not be to you, but it is to 
me as you will see at the end of my post.  Your email to me consisted 
of 2 lines; that you received my emails and that 2424's are common 
tractors.  That made me thing you didn't even take the time to look at 
it, or maybe didn't know anything about it--I've had some people email 
me to say they favor a different vintage so know nothing of our 
tractor.  I'm sure that while you are very knowledgeable, you don't 
know everything about ALL Farmall and IH tractors or you wouldn't need 
to do any research anymore.  Likewise, I DID read through your 
prototype book--it's where I first found your name at the Wisconsin 
State Historical Society, digging through boxes--but I'm sure it 
doesn't have every prototype ever made in it, especially since you 
probably know that truckloads of archived material w!
>  as hauled to the dump by disgruntled employees.  It wasn't you or 
Mike Schmudlach that helped me find a tractor just like ours, so 
please don't tell people that you "tried to help me and I wouldn't 
listen".  I want to know the history of our tractor and I will 
continue to send emails to Farmall and IH fanciers, auctioneers and 
the like.  I will apologize in advance for all the people who might 
still forward my emails to you, I was not trying to waste your time, 
nor was I trying to get you to help me in some round about way.  
Please let me know if you want me to put a disclaimer in my emails 
asking people not to forward my emails to you. Mike-I am VERY sorry 
that Jerry's secretary was ungrateful for your help.  She can be a 
scatterbrain but she usually does try hard to think of others.  Leida 
did give me the file on the tractor but she apparently didn't take 
good notes as all I had was your name and email.  I know you did email 
me, but there was nothing specific in your emai!
>  l other than to say you had looked into it when talking Leida and 
it w
> as a dead end.  Our tractor may be undesireable to most collectors, 
but I want to reiterate that that isn't the point--at least not for 
me.  Let me explain a little....my dad has a hobby farm and has 
collected and restored 23 antique tractors--he put more money into 
restoring a machinery shed because the barn was full, than I would put 
into my house.  When my uncle (dad's ex-brother in law but they're 
still friends) bought this tractor, it started a little bit of a fun 
family rivalry, and I HAD to get involved....as you can probably tell 
by now, I don't give up a fight easily.  I have nothing to gain from 
finding out about our little tug, other than smug satisfaction and an 
entire LIFETIME of gloating.  The reason you hear nothing for short 
periods of time and then tons of posts and emails is that I can only 
work on the tractor leads in my spare time, which is not a lot.  I 
can't say that you won't see my emails again because I cut and paste 
the specifics into every email, o!
>  nly updating it when I have new info.  I am offering to put the 
same disclaimer in for you as I will for Guy asking people not to 
forward to you.  I really don't want any hard feelings but I'm going 
to continue my search and will probably post to the list if I find 
something knew because other people have shown interest and I think 
they might like to know what I find. I hope everyone has happy 
holidays.Courtney VandenRidge 
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