[AJD] Mike's B - crankcase

Tue Dec 21 05:25:20 PST 2004

Dennis -

Would that doll house be green with yellow trim?  :)

Mike

Robert M. Massengale
Fredericksburg, Texas 78624

> There is no stupid questions, the only ones that are the unasked ones
> that get you in trouble or hurt.... I have only been doing this for 3
> years myself and this group has helped me a lot and put up with some
> real doozies from me.. I never in my life tackled anything larger than
> a pushmower before I jumped into Deeredom with both feet..i did start
> small with a JD pumpjack, then a JD Letz mill, my first running
> machine was a JD LUS, the the 70 which we call Lazarus around the
> house because it was resurrected from a year long death...But the next
> project is a real hard
> one...................................................................
> .. ......................... Its to finish my daughters scale doll
> house that’s 2 story with lights and woodsiding and the
> works.........She has waited for a year with it partially completed
> and when it turns to cold (like now) after Xmas it will be done...
> 
> Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of Robert M. Massengale Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 5:02 PM To:
> Antique John Deere mailing list Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B -
> crankcase
> 
> Duane -
> 
> Roger on the caution about the pump & lines... got the same from Frank
> in a louder voice, which I heard loud & clear.  I'll be working it
> from the top side.  Bought a two gallon spray bottle and wand to help.
>  I've got Christmas and some weather closing in on me that is going to
> slow the process.  It's 71º outside now, but our forecast high for
> Thursday is only 37º.   My bride asked me if I was going to put an
> electric blanket over the B's hood :)  Gotta love that gal.
> 
> I do appreciate your encouragement about not being afraid to ask my
> basic questions.  I do get concerned about wasting bandwidth with
> entry level stuff and make a effort to think things through before I
> ask.  You guys are great!!
> 
> Mike
> Robert M. Massengale
> Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> 
> 
> > Mike,
> > That would likely be the oil pump mechanism, and the oil filter. 
> > The pump has lines attached to it, so it is not that easy to remove
> > just to get a larger hole.  You have to remove them from above.  The
> > normal access point is by removing the plate on top of the crankcase
> > that the crankcase breather is a part of - that is large, and by
> > rotating the flywheel (CAREFULLY IF YOUR ARM/HAND IS IN THERE) to
> > gain access to different parts of the bottom of the crankcase.
> > 
> > It is easy for us to assume knowledge that you may not have - you
> > are on a steep learning curve working with your first tractor, so
> > please don't be afraid to ask any and all questions.  The next JD
> > will be much easier (and I'll bet there will be a next one :). Duane
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
> > To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase
> > 
> > 
> > > Duane, Bill, Ron, Don, Terry and Dave,
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your suggestions and guidance on flushing the
> > > crankcase.
> > I've
> > > trimmed your individual responses as the thread was getting too
> > > long to
> > get through
> > > Spencer's filters.  As anxious as I am to pour some gas in the
> > > tank and
> > turn that
> > > flywheel, I'm going to hold off and do a good cleaning of the
> > > crankcase.
> > >
> > > I was caught off guard when I finally realized the "crankcase
> > > cover"
> > everyone was
> > > talking about removing to get at the muck and sludge was on top of
> > > the
> > crankcase.
> > > I expected to be going at this from the bottom of the engine.  I
> > > had
> > tentatively
> > > identified my entry point as the round 6½" and 4½" covers (one on
> > > top of
> > the other)
> > > just forward of the drain plug and oil filter.  What's above these
> > > covers?
> > It looks like
> > > if I removed them it would make a much bigger hole to push the
> > > muck
> > through than
> > > the drain plug hole.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for all this great help.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Robert M. Masengale
> > > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> > >
> > > > As I work toward getting the B ready to start I figured it would
> > > > be a good idea to change the engine oil.  When I pulled the
> > > > drain plug I was horrified at the grey colored muck and at least
> > > > a gallon of water that came out of the crankcase. Then pulled
> > > > the oil filter and got volumes more of that nasty grey sludge
> > > > and more water.  The mess that came out filled a 5 gal paint
> > > > bucket to within 4" of the top.  Nothing came out that even
> > > > resembled oil, in texture or color.  I thought at first the
> > > > block or head must be cracked, but the water is clear and the
> > > > water in the radiator is antifreeze green.  Don advised me that
> > > > it's not unusual for old tractors to get water in the crankcase,
> > > > so that eased my concern some.  However, I've got to get that
> > > > stuff out of the crankcase. I sure can't run the engine with
> > > > that mess in there.  I picked up five gallons of diesel after
> > > > church with the intention of putting that in the crankcase and
> > > > letting it sit/soak. Then after a day or so rocking the B
> > > > forward & back to get a sloshing action going to help loosen and
> > > > break up the sludge to help it drain out.
> > > >
> > > > Would appreciate any guidance the list can offer me on this. 
> > > > What about the transmission and differential fluids... should I
> > > > anticipate the same problem in those areas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Mike
> > > > Robert M. Massengale
> > > > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> > > >
> > > >
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