[AJD] Greetings / Fly Wheel

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Mon Dec 20 22:42:15 PST 2004 

Louis:

That is a funny, but could have been a disaster, story. I wonder if he
changed his underwear before he came into the dealership. I can attest to
the fact that Gas flywheels do also come loose. We never had trouble with
the flywheel on our Gas 70 in the 50's until will hopped the engine up quite
a bit. We put in M & W raised domed pistons in it. From that time on we had
trouble keeping the flywheel tight. As I recall we finally cracked the
flywheel by reefing on it too much. Got a new flywheel and that stopped the
problem. That was one mean 70 from then on!

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
storeroom door 


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-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Louis
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:13 PM
To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
Subject: RE: [AJD] Greetings / Fly Wheel

This reminds me of one day I was at my local JD dealer.  Mind you this
is a true story, I was there.  This guy comes in, he was all shook up.
He asks if there is anything he can do to really tighten up the flywheel
on his John Deere A. The parts man asks "why".  He said he was standing
towards the front of the tractor while it was running. He said that "the
flywheel came off of that #%#^$ tractor and that #$%#%SOB chased him
across the barnyard".  It must of just happened before he came to the
dealership, he was still pretty shaken up about it.  I can't say that I
blame him.  He was very fortunate that he didn't get hit by it.  I am
glad he had good humor about it, I couldn't help but laugh.  It was a
combination of how excited he was and the thought of seeing someone
being chased by a flywheel.  Yes, it really isn't funny, he could have
been seriously hurt.  

So the moral of the story is yes, gas flywheels also loosen up, but not
as bad as the diesels.  The trick on the older tractors is that you have
to have the flywheel wrench and really bare down on it, using a long
pipe on the wrench.  You also have to bare down on the other flywheels,
but Deere made it easier to tighten those up starting with the mid 1947
models.  They put the nuts and bolt where you can get at them without
having to use all those screwy flywheel wrenches.


Louis Spiegelberg

-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of Troy Bogdan
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:34 PM
To: Antique John Deere mailing list
Subject: Re: [AJD] Greetings / Fly Wheel


Yes Steve, it sure is a gas model 70.  Obviously other people have heard
of the loose flywheel problem, because it has happened to others I know,
and an old timer once told me that "John Deere Tractors helped to win
the war, but the battle was keeping the flywheels tight."  Of course,
mine, being a 54, the war was over by then, but it must have been a well
known problem.

Thanks,  Troy


on 12/20/04 1:44 PM, Steve Treimer at steelerhawk at yahoo.com wrote:

> Troy,
> Also you said it was a '53, but wouldn't that mean it must be a gas 
> then?  I've never heard of loose flywheels on a gas and I just assumed

> yours had to be the fabled 7-series diesel. The procedure Duane is 
> referring to is what I understand to be an insanely heroic procedure.

> The bars the people put on those nuts simply amaze me that the bolts 
> don't snap, leaving you in a far, far worse situation.  But that's how

> they say it's done. Another great resource is Mike Williams from 
> Clinton, IA.  He installs them too and is a reputed JD 
> restorer/machinist in the area. Steve
> 
> --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Troy,
>> Welcome back - we're still here, mostly.  I would give Dave at Allen 
>> Machine Works a call (423) 753-5738.  They make the Taper-Loc 
>> flywheels and he
>> should be able to give you some advice.  They do have to be put on
>> tight,
>> and there is a procedure to follow when installing one.  I have not
>> heard of
>> this problem before, FWIW.
>> Regards,
>> Duane Larson
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Troy Bogdan" <tbogdan1 at earthlink.net>
>> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:28 AM
>> Subject: [AJD] Greetings / Fly Wheel
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have been away from ATIS for some time now, but wanted to let you
>> know
>>> that I am back as a subscriber.  I hope to hear from many old
>> familiar
>>> names, and hope to meet lots of new ones also.
>>> 
>>> I have two antique tractors.  A 1953 John Deere 70, and a 1945
>> Farmall A.
>>> 
>>> My question today is, how do I keep my JD 70's fly-wheel from
>> coming
>>> loose/falling off?  Several years ago, I replaced my original
>> flywheel
>> with
>>> a new taper-lock flywheel.  About a year ago, the flywheel started
>> slipping
>>> outward, and rubbing against the flywheel cover.  I tightened it up
>> and it
>>> would come loose again in a few days.  It started happening more
>> frequently,
>>> so now I leave the flywheel cover off all the time, because I am
>> constantly
>>> tightening it up.  This is getting annoying, and  hate having the
>> flywheel
>>> cover off all the time, 1) because it is dangerous, and 2) I like
>> to step
>> on
>>> it when I am filling it with gas (when it is off, I have to step on
>> the
>>> wobbily flywheel).  Any suggestions???
>>> 
>>> By the way, I took it into a local shop that specializes in antique 
>>> tractors, and they say I need a new taper lock for $300+  They say
>> I wore
>>> the old one out by running it with a loose flywheel, but they have
>> been
>>> wrong before, and I want a second, or third, opinion.  What do you
>> folks
>>> think?
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, this has been a very good, strong running tractor, and
>> is my
>> main
>>> tractor for tillage (rototiller), cultivation, mowing, etc. on the
>> farm.
>>> I've owned it for over 10 years, and I've worked it very hard over
>> the
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much, and hope to talk with you soon.
>>> Troy Bogdan, Pure earth Organic Farm, North-West Pennsylvania 
>>> WWW.PUREEARTHORGANIC.COM  (Web site needs updated, but still
>> informative).
>>> 
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