[AJD] Mike's B - crankcase

Mon Dec 20 17:54:56 PST 2004

There is no stupid questions, the only ones that are the unasked ones
that get you in trouble or hurt.... I have only been doing this for 3
years myself and this group has helped me a lot and put up with some
real doozies from me.. I never in my life tackled anything larger than a
pushmower before I jumped into Deeredom with both feet..i did start
small with a JD pumpjack, then a JD Letz mill, my first running machine
was a JD LUS, the the 70 which we call Lazarus around the house because
it was resurrected from a year long death...But the next project is a
real hard
one.....................................................................
......................... Its to finish my daughters scale doll house
that’s 2 story with lights and woodsiding and the works.........She has
waited for a year with it partially completed and when it turns to cold
(like now) after Xmas it will be done...

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of Robert M. Massengale
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase

Duane -

Roger on the caution about the pump & lines... got the same from Frank
in a louder 
voice, which I heard loud & clear.  I'll be working it from the top
side.  Bought a two 
gallon spray bottle and wand to help.  I've got Christmas and some
weather closing 
in on me that is going to slow the process.  It's 71º outside now, but
our forecast 
high for Thursday is only 37º.   My bride asked me if I was going to put
an electric 
blanket over the B's hood :)  Gotta love that gal.

I do appreciate your encouragement about not being afraid to ask my
basic 
questions.  I do get concerned about wasting bandwidth with entry level
stuff and 
make a effort to think things through before I ask.  You guys are
great!!

Mike
Robert M. Massengale
Fredericksburg, Texas 78624

> Mike,
> That would likely be the oil pump mechanism, and the oil filter.  The
> pump has lines attached to it, so it is not that easy to remove just
> to get a larger hole.  You have to remove them from above.  The normal
> access point is by removing the plate on top of the crankcase that the
> crankcase breather is a part of - that is large, and by rotating the
> flywheel (CAREFULLY IF YOUR ARM/HAND IS IN THERE) to gain access to
> different parts of the bottom of the crankcase.
> 
> It is easy for us to assume knowledge that you may not have - you are
> on a steep learning curve working with your first tractor, so please
> don't be afraid to ask any and all questions.  The next JD will be
> much easier (and I'll bet there will be a next one :). Duane
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase
> 
> 
> > Duane, Bill, Ron, Don, Terry and Dave,
> >
> > Thank you all for your suggestions and guidance on flushing the
> > crankcase.
> I've
> > trimmed your individual responses as the thread was getting too long
> > to
> get through
> > Spencer's filters.  As anxious as I am to pour some gas in the tank
> > and
> turn that
> > flywheel, I'm going to hold off and do a good cleaning of the
> > crankcase.
> >
> > I was caught off guard when I finally realized the "crankcase cover"
> everyone was
> > talking about removing to get at the muck and sludge was on top of
> > the
> crankcase.
> > I expected to be going at this from the bottom of the engine.  I had
> tentatively
> > identified my entry point as the round 6½" and 4½" covers (one on
> > top of
> the other)
> > just forward of the drain plug and oil filter.  What's above these
> > covers?
> It looks like
> > if I removed them it would make a much bigger hole to push the muck
> through than
> > the drain plug hole.
> >
> > Thanks again for all this great help.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Robert M. Masengale
> > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> >
> > > As I work toward getting the B ready to start I figured it would
> > > be a good idea to change the engine oil.  When I pulled the drain
> > > plug I was horrified at the grey colored muck and at least a
> > > gallon of water that came out of the crankcase. Then pulled the
> > > oil filter and got volumes more of that nasty grey sludge and more
> > > water.  The mess that came out filled a 5 gal paint bucket to
> > > within 4" of the top.  Nothing came out that even resembled oil,
> > > in texture or color.  I thought at first the block or head must be
> > > cracked, but the water is clear and the water in the radiator is
> > > antifreeze green.  Don advised me that it's not unusual for old
> > > tractors to get water in the crankcase, so that eased my concern
> > > some.  However, I've got to get that stuff out of the crankcase. 
> > > I sure can't run the engine with that mess in there.  I picked up
> > > five gallons of diesel after church with the intention of putting
> > > that in the crankcase and letting it sit/soak. Then after a day or
> > > so rocking the B forward & back to get a sloshing action going to
> > > help loosen and break up the sludge to help it drain out.
> > >
> > > Would appreciate any guidance the list can offer me on this.  What
> > > about the transmission and differential fluids... should I
> > > anticipate the same problem in those areas?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > Mike
> > > Robert M. Massengale
> > > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> > >
> > >
> > >
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