[AJD] Early Unstyled Lighting and AO Lights

[Dean VP]

Chris:

Whoa, just a moment. Let's make sure that I am quoted correctly. I said that
the 1936 AO ORIGINALLY did not come out with the 7" flat lens lights
(AB1199R) we were discussing. If one looks in Repair Catalog 47-R for the AO
dated 1940 these lights are only listed as being for the AR. Now Repair
Catalog 57-R for the 1936 AO dated 1943 also lists them as being only for
the AR but along comes PC643 dated 1960 which lists 7" Flat lens lights for
the 1936 AO serial number range but they are listed as AB3144R, AB3145R and
AD2150R 7" Flat lens assemblies and shows them as being applicable to AO's
serial numbers (       - 259999) which includes the 1936 AO w/o the
restriction to the AR only. Confusing!

Now to add to this mystery. The fan shaft on the early AR/AO's did not
include a drive pulley for the generator and wasn't added until serial
number (264644). This conflicts with the AR info above. However, there was a
fan with friction clutch upgrade assembly that could be installed on the
AO/AR's from 250000 on up (AA3673R) and I have allowed myself to believe
that upgrade kit included the generator pulley. Or the pulley that was used
on the KW lighting kits was used or ???. It is just too complex for this old
mans head. 

To add further confusion, my 1936 AO has a belt pulley for the generator but
no lights. The fan must have been updated on mine. 

I do know one wouldn't want to add these lights to a tractor that didn't
come from the factory this way. There are a lot of parts changes besides
adding the lights, battery and generator. And the real bottom line is an AO
tractor was intended to be used in orchards and with lights sticking out
they wouldn't be there very long. 


But thanks for bringing this up. Remember I said I didn't know why there
were Chrome ringed 7" lights vs black ringed 7" lights. In the process of
looking your info up I discovered why these two light different light
assemblies exist. Thanks.

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
storeroom door 


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-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Chris C
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:39 AM
To: ATIS LIST
Subject: [AJD] Early Unstyled Lighting and AO Lights

At our local two cylinder club holiday dinner
yesterday,  Dean and I had a conversation about 7"
lights,  and their use on my 1936 AO (sn 252268)  Dean
was of the opinion that my AO never had lighting as an
option.  

   I have PC 674,  and it if fact,  shows a generator,
 and light mounts for the serial number range of my
AO,  but when we get to lights,  they are listed as AR
Only until you get to serial number 259999.  So,  I
gues Dean is correct.

    I ran into another guy at the show that is into
Old D's,  and in the back of his truck he had two
generators.  
One was a prestolite,  and I think the other was a
bosch.  He said that they are terribly hard to find, 
and that the earlier one (prestolite)  would have been
for optional lighting equipment on a Waterloo Boy or
my 1927 D,  and the later one would have been used on
something like an Unstyled A, B etc...  

    So to my questions,  Lights for the AO?  Yes or
No?  and does anyone have any further info on the
early lighting equipment?  He said that each of the
generators he had were in the $1200 to $2500 price
range as they were so hard to come by..  I don't know
anything at all about them but it was very
interesting.

                 Chris

    (the other thing that caused me to chuckle at our
banquet,  I have had my AO listed for sale for 6
months in the club newsletter...  I was no longer
listed in the one that came out a few weeks ago.  At
least 5 people came up to me wondering if I still had
that AR for sale..  )


		
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