[AT] Fwd: Re: [MV] ebay..Mail Fraud

Dave Merchant nesys_com at ameritech.net
Sun Dec 12 05:09:14 PST 2004


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Dave Merchant

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>I already exists we just need to use it.
>
>There is something like that already that got it's start for buying,
>selling, trading computer parts online with regular joe's that aren't
>companies. It's been in the making for years and started from a loose group
>of people helping each other out to a more formal system that has been
>widely accepted and required on trading boards. It has worked out well and
>the community has become self policing.
>
>The first is a website called a heatware http://www.heatware.com/. Buyers,
>sellers, and traders can leave references for each other much like ebay's
>feedback system. For instance my heat rating
>http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=2946 . It has become widley accepted on
>many of the for sale/trade boards I subscribe to, with many moderators
>requiring that someone display their heat ranking when looking to buy, sell,
>or trade.
>
>There is a second site http://www.trollhunters.com/ for people to go to when
>they get ripped off or suspect they are about to be ripped off. They offer
>trading advice, maintain a traders to avoid list, and assist in getting
>deals done, or tracking down and getting frauds brought to justice. I have
>seen many posts where someone in or near a town where a troll lives will
>stop and pay a visit and that alone is enough to get a guy to come clean.
>Often times it turns out to be a 14 year old kid and when his parents answer
>the door and speak to the visitor. Well lets say.. It's enough.. I have also
>seen where locals will help work with the cops and courts and seen a few
>scammmers tried and charged.
>
>There is also a website for ranking companies to.
>http://www.resellerratings.com/ customers can rate businesses they buy from
>and see comments made by other BEFORE buying. On the boards I subscribe to
>if a company gets a low ranking it's the kiss of death.For instance look at
>justdeals http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1685.html lifetime ranking of
>4.28 which is pretty low. I have purchased a motherboard and two sets of
>speakers from justdels and never had a problem.
>
>Just to show no one is perfect Dell has a 4.28 lifetime ranking.
>http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1867.html
>
>I do most of my new computer parts buying from newegg, they are excellent
>and have a lifetime ranking of 9.61.
>
>Now the nice part about all of this is the profiles on heatware and reseller
>ratings are all created and maintained by the users and they don't have to
>be computer related. There are profiles for many different companies on
>resellerratings.com
>For instance, NAPA Online has a profile, there are shoe stores, etc.
>
>So it's already all in place for us to take advantage of it, we just need to
>start using it. We can adopt heatware for trading with each other here and
>also leave reseller ratings for the companies we deal with. This is much
>more effective than posting "Beware of so and so" emails here that only last
>a couple of days, are archived and not easily searchable.
>
>Just a thought....
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quik.com]
>Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:13 PM
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>Subject: Re: [MV] ebay..Mail Fraud
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>Santoken wrote:
>
> > You know, that reminds of a 'service' that one could provide.  Imagine
> > you get ripped on eBay, so you contact this company, they have a
> > network of 'thugs'...or, officers, rather, that go and 'take care' of
> > the matter.  Are you for hire, Arthur?
>
>I would certainly support a network of people to file small claims in court
>for thieves and scumbags like that, -John
>
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Dave Merchant
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