[AT] Ford 8 N

[Allen V. Pruehs]

The 1947 Oliver 88 came standard with an independant/live PTO. The 
Cockshutt 30 came with either the four speed transmission and the 
independant PTO, or the eight speed transmission and a regular 
standard/non-independant PTO. The Cockshutt 30 was tested before the Oliver 
at the Nebraska Tests. As a result, it sometimes is claimed that they were 
first.

The Oliver offered a choice of a mechanical lift, live hydraulics (both 
mounted in the same position under the dash/on top of the transmission) or 
a plain cover. Hart Parr actually offered an independant PTO on the 18-36 
in the late 1920's.

Take care,
Allen Pruehs

At 05:47 PM 12/8/2004, you wrote:

>         I'm not familiar enough with Oliver to say but I suspect it was 
> one of the earlier live PTO tractors???
>Ford had a live hydraulic system in 1953 NAA (Jubilee) and a live PTO 
>available as an option for it as well.
>They are rare but were available (we had one). Allis made a live PTO 
>available with the WD and CA but that
>was many years after the design of the N Fords. That was done mostly to 
>operate the Roto-balers.
>...
>         I sure wish I had an 8N or NAA (or TO-30 Ferguson) again since 
> they are so easy to climb off and on
>and handy for odd jobs but their demand has priced them out of my range 
>around here.
>
>"farmer"
>
>
>Francis Robinson
>Central Indiana USA
>robinson at svs.net