[AJD] 1st Tractor

Bus Driver mpmbd at yadtel.net
Sat Dec 11 18:15:32 PST 2004


I had lots of experience on a G in the 40's and early 50's. I am convinced
that Diesel is not good for a spark ignited engine. The Diesel is just too
"heavy".  Often we switched to kerosene as soon as the petcocks were closed.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Shehi" <shehi at commspeed.net>
To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] 1st Tractor


>
>
> Taking this comparison to the diesel.  It's my understanding that the #2
> diesel fuel will produce more power that the #1 diesel fuel.  The #2
diesel
> fuel will gel in the colder climates.  The #2 diesel fuel has more oil,
thus
> more BTU per gallon.  The climate here in Camp Verde Arizona is mild
enough
> that we don't need the #1 diesel fuel.
>
> If the all fuel John Deeres were up to operating temperature, would they
> burn diesel fuel?  Has anybody tried it?  I have never tried it, just
> wondered about it.
>
> Don Shehi
> Camp Verde, Arizona
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Bus Driver
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:30 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 1st Tractor
>
> Don Shei offers a really good explanation. Kerosene has more BTU per
gallon
> than does gasoline, so it might easily be possible for the all-fuel
tractor
> to produce more power on kerosene than on gasoline. Kerosene has much
lower
> "octane" than does gasoline. It knocks like crazy in spark ignited engines
> with high compression- I speak from experience.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Dean VP
> > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:05 PM
> > To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> > Subject: RE: [AJD] 1st Tractor
> >
> > Merle:
> >
> > Now that is really interesting. It has always been my understanding that
> the
> > all fuel JD's developed less HP when running on Distillate. Is Kerosene
> that
> > much different? Did your pull end due to running out of HP or traction?
> >
> > Now I'm really confused again.  Normal for me I guess!  :-)
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> > storeroom door
> >
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Merle W. Johnson
> > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:41 PM
> > To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1st Tractor
> >
> > For the fun of it, I made a 1st pull with an "A" on gasoline, 2nd pull
on
> > kerosene.  Pulled 4 foot further on kero.
> > Merle
> >
> > Terry wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > You queried:
> > >
> > > "I wonder how that "B" would do
> > > on 100 octane?"
> > >
> > > If it's an all fuel, It'd probably run better on JP-4!
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert M. Massengale [mailto:ltcmikem at ktc.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:59 AM
> > > To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > Subject: [AJD] 1st Tractor
> > >
> > > Dennis,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the welcome.  The Falcon 2000 is a nice aeroplane.  I
> > > thoroughly enjoyed my almost 30 years of flying for Uncle Sam, but
> > > always wished I had been born a generation earlier... P-51's, B-17's
> > > and all the other birds of that vintage hold me spellbound.  Now that
> > > I've hung up my spurs, I can focus on my other passion... old tools,
> > > old cars and old John Deere tractors.  I wonder how that "B" would do
> > > on 100 octane?
> > >
> > > I think Greg caught Santa at a bad moment... I asked for you too and
> > > got a "maybe".
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > Robert M. Massengale
> > > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:02:23 -0600
> > > > From: "Cotton Family" <dcotton at coosahs.net>
> > > > Subject: RE: [AJD] 1st Tractor
> > > >
> > > > Mike , its good to know there is a fellow pilot on the list.. I
drive
> > > > a Falcon 2000 for Netjets... I like going back in time from the
glass
> > > > cockpit to the cast iron of my Deere... Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > > [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
Behalf
> > > > Of Frank Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:42 PM To: Antique John
> > > > Deere mailing list Subject: Re: [AJD] 1st Tractor
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > serious............you got a bunch of good advice from different
> > > > people.......put the all together and read through them and you will
> > > > have a good idea what things to do. Anyone who can drive a C141B can
> > > > handle it if you are careful........... any questions       you can
> > > > call me too .................just let me know and I will send you my
> > > > number. If you come to Red Lodge with it let me know ....I will come
> > > > look!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > > Central Montana
> > > > http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > Robert M. Massengale, Lt.Col. (Ret), USAF
> > > Order of Daedalians
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