[AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!

dglass dglass at mail.newnanutilities.org
Thu Dec 9 15:37:13 PST 2004


Newnan, Georgia

Larry D. Goss wrote:

>Where is "here"?
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>Larry
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>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
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> The Lowes and Home Depot here doesn't even stock #14 and haven't in
>years.
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>Larry D. Goss wrote:
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>>If that's the case, it has major ramifications for the electrical
>>department of places like Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.  Their stock is
>>totally geared to 14 gauge wiring.  It will be interesting to see what
>>sort of wording they have in the "grandfathering" clauses of the code.
>>It has even greater influence on the insurance industry.
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>>Larry
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>>-----Original Message-----
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>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
>>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:32 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
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>>It might be, I talked to the county inspector about why we had higher 
>>code requirements than NEC on running #14 and he said they (NEC) had 
>>just changed the code and it was now the same as ours. (no #14)
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>>Larry D. Goss wrote:
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>>>What?  Where's that?  NEC still says #14 is the standard wire for 15
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>>>service in residences.  It must be a strong local electrician's union
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>>if
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>>>there's a local restriction to #12 or larger.
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>>>Larry
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:01 PM
>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
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>>>It might have changed some. At least here, you cannot use #14 in any 
>>>residential application.
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>>>Dudley Rupert wrote:
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>>>>John,
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>>>>I hope the following little table showing Load, Circuit Breaker and
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>>>Wire
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>>>>Size transmits in a readable fashion -
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>>>>I took it from the NEC (National Electrical Code) probably 25 years
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>>>>I can't imagine it has changed.
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>>>>Dudley Rupert
>>>>Snohomish, Washington
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>>>>   Load     Circuit Breaker        Wire Size
>>>>=<15 amps      15 amp         Not less than #14
>>>>=<20 amps      20 amp         Not less than #12
>>>>=<30 amps      30 amp         Not less than #10
>>>>=<40 amps      40 amp         Not less than #8
>>>>=<50 amps      50 amp         Not less than #6
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of John
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>Wilkens
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>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:02 PM
>>>>To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>Subject: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
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>>>>If I have a 230 volt mig welder that is rated at 45 amps input
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>>>>assume I would want a 50 amp 230 volt breaker .  But what minimum
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>>>>wire gauge would I need to run 25' from the breaker box to the outlet
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>>>box
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>>>>for the welder?   For years I've used 10 gauge wire for my 225 amp
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>>>>Lincoln buzz box.     John W.
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>>>>                 In the wide-open spaces of NE Oregon
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