[AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!

Jerry Rhodes jlrhod at paulding-net.com
Thu Dec 9 13:29:33 PST 2004


Do not wish to say your wrong BUT late July I bought 2 250' boxes of 14/2
w/g at Lowes in NW Ohio
Jerry NW Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "dglass" <dglass at mail.newnanutilities.org>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!


> The Lowes and Home Depot here doesn't even stock #14 and haven't in years.
>
> Larry D. Goss wrote:
>
> >If that's the case, it has major ramifications for the electrical
> >department of places like Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.  Their stock is
> >totally geared to 14 gauge wiring.  It will be interesting to see what
> >sort of wording they have in the "grandfathering" clauses of the code.
> >It has even greater influence on the insurance industry.
> >
> >Larry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
> >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:32 AM
> >To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >Subject: Re: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
> >
> >It might be, I talked to the county inspector about why we had higher
> >code requirements than NEC on running #14 and he said they (NEC) had
> >just changed the code and it was now the same as ours. (no #14)
> >
> >Larry D. Goss wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>What?  Where's that?  NEC still says #14 is the standard wire for 15
> >>
> >>
> >amp
> >
> >
> >>service in residences.  It must be a strong local electrician's union
> >>
> >>
> >if
> >
> >
> >>there's a local restriction to #12 or larger.
> >>
> >>Larry
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:01 PM
> >>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>Subject: Re: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
> >>
> >>It might have changed some. At least here, you cannot use #14 in any
> >>residential application.
> >>
> >>Dudley Rupert wrote:
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> >>>John,
> >>>
> >>>I hope the following little table showing Load, Circuit Breaker and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Wire
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Size transmits in a readable fashion -
> >>>
> >>>I took it from the NEC (National Electrical Code) probably 25 years
> >>>
> >>>
> >ago
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>but
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I can't imagine it has changed.
> >>>
> >>>Dudley Rupert
> >>>Snohomish, Washington
> >>>
> >>>    Load     Circuit Breaker        Wire Size
> >>>=<15 amps      15 amp         Not less than #14
> >>>=<20 amps      20 amp         Not less than #12
> >>>=<30 amps      30 amp         Not less than #10
> >>>=<40 amps      40 amp         Not less than #8
> >>>=<50 amps      50 amp         Not less than #6
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of John Wilkens
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:02 PM
> >>>To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>>Subject: [AT] Wire size for welder?? Help welder people!
> >>>
> >>>If I have a 230 volt mig welder that is rated at 45 amps input current
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I
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> >>>assume I would want a 50 amp 230 volt breaker .  But what minimum
> >>>
> >>>
> >romex
> >
> >
> >>>wire gauge would I need to run 25' from the breaker box to the outlet
> >>>
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> >>box
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> >>>for the welder?   For years I've used 10 gauge wire for my 225 amp
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> >>output
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> >>>Lincoln buzz box.     John W.
> >>>
> >>>                  In the wide-open spaces of NE Oregon
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