[AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

Paul O mrgp at fwi.com
Mon Dec 6 12:46:14 PST 2004 

Charlie
Give up on the B and go gor the beaner!!!!
Paul O

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??


>I will keep my eyes open for a 4 row for you. I didn't even know they made 
>a 4 row. Dad had a 3 row cultivator and corn planter. The cultivator burned 
>up in a barn fire caused by lightning. The corn planter was stored in 
>another barn. He managed to use the 3 row planter by tying 1 of the rows up 
>and using only the remaining 2. Ever try to cultivate with a 2 row 
>cultivator when the corn was planted with a 3 row planter?
> I do recall your article. Unfortunately I don't remember the details. 
> Little senior moment problem. Another reason I am not locating a bean 
> tractor is I have also been searching for a 37 B. (year of my birth)
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>
>
>> Charlie
>> Bean tractors were manufactured from 1931 to 1935. If you recall the 
>> article I wrote for Two-Cylinder a few years ago, I estimated there were 
>> 120 built. There are more than 120 bean axles around because the bean 
>> axle was furnished whenever someone ordered a repair axle.
>>
>> You need to widen your search for a bean tractor. I have talked to people 
>> who grew up thinking all GP tractors had the wide front axle because they 
>> never saw anything else. You need to look to the East where edible beans 
>> were grown.
>>
>> I understand your frustration. I cannot find a four-row cultivator. In 
>> fact, as far as I know, there is only one in existance. There should have 
>> been as many cultivators built as there were bean tractors. Where are 
>> they?
>>
>> Paul  O
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>> Funny, if most were shipped to Michigan how come I can't find one? I 
>>> know your correct on that however. What years were bean tractors 
>>> manufactured? I have been told that some standards were converted also. 
>>> I am not sure but what my dad's was. Unfortunately I don't have that 
>>> tractor. I sure wish I did but at the time he let it go I had no 
>>> interest in it.
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> As far as I know, most if not all, bean tractors were shipped to 
>>>> Michigan. Of course there could have been one or  more exceptions. 
>>>> Also, in the last few years, everyone knows tractors have been shipped 
>>>> to all points around the country. Unfortunately, we cannot learn 
>>>> anything about bean tractors built prior to 1934 from the archives . 
>>>> Records of bean options were not kept in 1931-2-3.
>>>>
>>>> Paul O
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>> Is it unusual for a bean tractor to end up in California? I thought 
>>>>> that most were native to this part of the country.
>>>>> John, congratulations on your find. Wish I could locate one.
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> The serial number on your GP is in the correct range for a bean 
>>>>>> tractor. Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing seat. Also, 
>>>>>> all bean tractors had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from 
>>>>>> one chain case to the other. The horizontal part was located just 
>>>>>> under the platform. The top of the vertical "legs" shows just above 
>>>>>> the platform. The rear wheels were mounted for the widest possible 
>>>>>> tread width. I would be interested in hearing from you as to what you 
>>>>>> find. I am keeping a roster of all the bean tractors I hear about. 
>>>>>> Please let me know the results if you have its' ship destination 
>>>>>> researched. Thanks!
>>>>>> Paul O
>>>>>> P.S. I would like to know what those California lugs looked like.
>>>>>> PO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere" 
>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for and
>>>>>>> bought a GP on full steel with beautiful Schmeiser
>>>>>>> (locally produced here in CA)lugs. Unfortunately, it
>>>>>>> had not run since 1955 and someone removed the hood,
>>>>>>> magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts above
>>>>>>> the engine, then loosened the head. It had been out in
>>>>>>> the weather that way for who knows how many years, so
>>>>>>> the engine is probably in pretty rough shape. We
>>>>>>> picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough one to
>>>>>>> load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was starting to
>>>>>>> grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down the
>>>>>>> tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake was
>>>>>>> rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn. On top
>>>>>>> of that I couldnt get any closer than about a hundred
>>>>>>> yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it up and
>>>>>>> onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along all
>>>>>>> the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks both
>>>>>>> outside and now inside the shop where Matt started to
>>>>>>> do some investigating into its condition. I was out in
>>>>>>> the shop looking for something else tonight when the
>>>>>>> front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider than a
>>>>>>> normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the axle,
>>>>>>> instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on me that
>>>>>>> this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting # C1878R,
>>>>>>> which as far as I can determine from the parts
>>>>>>> catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything else I
>>>>>>> should be looking for? It appears to have a standard
>>>>>>> drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am proud
>>>>>>> of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping he
>>>>>>> might be following somewhat in the old man's
>>>>>>> footsteps!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Boehm
>>>>>>> Woodland, CA
>>>>>>> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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