[AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

Sat Dec 4 13:43:47 PST 2004

Charlie
Bean tractors were manufactured from 1931 to 1935. If you recall the article 
I wrote for Two-Cylinder a few years ago, I estimated there were 120 built. 
There are more than 120 bean axles around because the bean axle was 
furnished whenever someone ordered a repair axle.

You need to widen your search for a bean tractor. I have talked to people 
who grew up thinking all GP tractors had the wide front axle because they 
never saw anything else. You need to look to the East where edible beans 
were grown.

I understand your frustration. I cannot find a four-row cultivator. In fact, 
as far as I know, there is only one in existance. There should have been as 
many cultivators built as there were bean tractors. Where are they?

Paul  O

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

> Funny, if most were shipped to Michigan how come I can't find one? I know 
> your correct on that however. What years were bean tractors manufactured? 
> I have been told that some standards were converted also. I am not sure 
> but what my dad's was. Unfortunately I don't have that tractor. I sure 
> wish I did but at the time he let it go I had no interest in it.
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:01 PM
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>
>> Charlie
>> As far as I know, most if not all, bean tractors were shipped to 
>> Michigan. Of course there could have been one or  more exceptions. Also, 
>> in the last few years, everyone knows tractors have been shipped to all 
>> points around the country. Unfortunately, we cannot learn anything about 
>> bean tractors built prior to 1934 from the archives . Records of bean 
>> options were not kept in 1931-2-3.
>>
>> Paul O
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>> Paul,
>>> Is it unusual for a bean tractor to end up in California? I thought that 
>>> most were native to this part of the country.
>>> John, congratulations on your find. Wish I could locate one.
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>
>>>
>>>> John
>>>> The serial number on your GP is in the correct range for a bean 
>>>> tractor. Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing seat. Also, all 
>>>> bean tractors had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from one 
>>>> chain case to the other. The horizontal part was located just under the 
>>>> platform. The top of the vertical "legs" shows just above the platform. 
>>>> The rear wheels were mounted for the widest possible tread width. I 
>>>> would be interested in hearing from you as to what you find. I am 
>>>> keeping a roster of all the bean tractors I hear about. Please let me 
>>>> know the results if you have its' ship destination researched. Thanks!
>>>> Paul O
>>>> P.S. I would like to know what those California lugs looked like.
>>>> PO
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "Antique John Deere" <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for and
>>>>> bought a GP on full steel with beautiful Schmeiser
>>>>> (locally produced here in CA)lugs. Unfortunately, it
>>>>> had not run since 1955 and someone removed the hood,
>>>>> magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts above
>>>>> the engine, then loosened the head. It had been out in
>>>>> the weather that way for who knows how many years, so
>>>>> the engine is probably in pretty rough shape. We
>>>>> picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough one to
>>>>> load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was starting to
>>>>> grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down the
>>>>> tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake was
>>>>> rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn. On top
>>>>> of that I couldnt get any closer than about a hundred
>>>>> yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it up and
>>>>> onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along all
>>>>> the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks both
>>>>> outside and now inside the shop where Matt started to
>>>>> do some investigating into its condition. I was out in
>>>>> the shop looking for something else tonight when the
>>>>> front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider than a
>>>>> normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the axle,
>>>>> instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on me that
>>>>> this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting # C1878R,
>>>>> which as far as I can determine from the parts
>>>>> catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything else I
>>>>> should be looking for? It appears to have a standard
>>>>> drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am proud
>>>>> of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping he
>>>>> might be following somewhat in the old man's
>>>>> footsteps!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Boehm
>>>>> Woodland, CA
>>>>> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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