[AJD] GP with Bean axle??--Paul

[Paul O]

John
You raise a good point about extra stability with long hub wheels on and 
orchard tractor. That may be the reason we often find them on the O 
tractors.

I am sure there are others who could tell you a lot more about the term 
"lister". About all I know is that they made peaks and valleys, and planted 
in the valleys to take advantage of what little moisture fell. This was 
called listing. If you have a copy of the "Operation, Care, and Repair of 
Farm Machinery" you might me able to learn something. At least the 15th 
edition describes it.

You need to adjust your priorities and get that GPO finished!

Paul O


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Wilkens" <jwilkens at eoni.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
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Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] GP with Bean axle??--Paul


> Thanks Paul.  I wonder if the long-hub wheels might have been for adding a 
> degree of stability on steeper orchard hillsides....which is pretty 
> common?  Do you know where the term "lister" came from?   I'm not making 
> very good progress on my GPO restoration.  Seems like a dozen other 
> projects are always getting ahead of it.  It is inside, and I managed to 
> get the crank reground and rod inserts fitted, and one cylinder sleeved. 
> John W.
>
>
>
> At 11:56 AM 12/03/2004, you wrote:
>>John
>>I believe the answer to your question is no, but I do not have any 
>>documentation to back that up. The original story I heard about those long 
>>hub wheels were that they were lister wheels. This was before there was 
>>much knowledge about bean tractors. I know nothing about listed crops, so 
>>I have no reason to  disbelieve that.
>>
>>The other story I have heard is the long hub wheels were used with the 
>>standard axle to get the wide tread width needed for bean (or other crop) 
>>cultivation. There were special options made available for crops planted 
>>in rows other than 42". I have seen pictures of steel long hub wheels 
>>which I believe were used before the bean axle came out.
>>
>>There was a decision in 1933 which adopted rubber tired front wheels "so 
>>the Orchard and Bean tractors could be sold on rubber tires". The decision 
>>did not provide a part number for the wheels, but it is not likely the 
>>reference was to the long hub wheels.
>>
>>I have seen the long hub wheels on several GPO tractors. To me, that seems 
>>counter-productive because the smaller the better for orchard use. I doubt 
>>that the GPO tractors left the factory that way, but I have been surprised 
>>before.
>>
>>In any case, you have some fairly rare wheels which should look nice on 
>>your GP.
>>
>>Paul O
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilkens" <jwilkens at eoni.com>
>>To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>><antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:19 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>>Paul, I have a set of what I understand are "beaner wheels" (for rubber) 
>>>which have the outset hubs--found on my still-unrestored GPO.  Were these 
>>>used in conjunction with with the bean axle described in this discussion? 
>>>John W.
>>>
>>>
>
>
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