[AJD] GP with Bean axle??

[Paul O]

John
If the other tractor you referred to is a small bore, I would say it was not 
a bean tractor.

I may not have explained the "H" brace properly, because you mentioned the 
drawbar. The bean tractors have a standard drawbar. The brace is located 
above the drawbar and just under the platform. If that is not yet clear, let 
me know and I will try to get a picture to you.

Paul O

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] GP with Bean axle??


> Paul- I believe Matt's tractor has a standard drawbar.
>>From your description of the brace, I dont think it
> has those parts. I did call the serial number in to
> Two Cylinder Club today. It will take about 3-4 weeks
> to get a reply from them. I will let you know when I
> hear from them. I  know of another GP out here,
> several years earlier than Matt's, that has the Bean
> axle, but no other Bean features.
>
> John Boehm
> Woodland, CA
> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>
>
> --- Paul O <mrgp at fwi.com> wrote:
>
>> John
>>
>> I looked at the photos you have posted. From the
>> rear view, I could see that
>> there was no swing seat. Because of the glare on the
>> picture, I can not be
>> sure, but I could not see the brace I mentioned to
>> you before. Lacking these
>> two items, I would doubt that it is indeed a bean
>> tractor. When the bean
>> axle was developed, there was a decision which said
>> the bean axle assembly
>> would be supplied whenever a replacement axle was
>> ordered. This explains why
>> there are some tractors in existence which have bean
>> axles on now which
>> never left the factory that way.
>>
>> However, since it is a 1934, you can have it
>> researched and the archives
>> will have a record of it if it had the bean option
>> when it left the factory.
>>
>> Paul O
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>> > Paul- I now have some photos posted at
>> > http://vintagetractors.com/jdgp229508.html
>> > I do have one good photo of the drawbar area under
>> the
>> > platform. The lugs are what is desribed in the
>> > Schmeiser literature at their "sand grousers".
>> >
>> > John Boehm
>> > Woodland, CA
>> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Paul O <mrgp at fwi.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> John
>> >> The serial number on your GP is in the correct
>> range
>> >> for a bean tractor.
>> >> Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing
>> seat.
>> >> Also, all bean tractors
>> >> had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from
>> one
>> >> chain case to the
>> >> other. The horizontal part was located just under
>> >> the platform. The top of
>> >> the vertical "legs" shows just above the
>> platform.
>> >> The rear wheels were
>> >> mounted for the widest possible tread width. I
>> would
>> >> be interested in
>> >> hearing from you as to what you find. I am
>> keeping a
>> >> roster of all the bean
>> >> tractors I hear about. Please let me know the
>> >> results if you have its' ship
>> >> destination researched. Thanks!
>> >> Paul O
>> >> P.S. I would like to know what those California
>> lugs
>> >> looked like.
>> >> PO
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>> >> To: "Antique John Deere"
>> >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>> >> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for
>> >> and
>> >> > bought a GP on full steel with beautiful
>> Schmeiser
>> >> > (locally produced here in CA)lugs.
>> Unfortunately,
>> >> it
>> >> > had not run since 1955 and someone removed the
>> >> hood,
>> >> > magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts
>> >> above
>> >> > the engine, then loosened the head. It had been
>> >> out in
>> >> > the weather that way for who knows how many
>> years,
>> >> so
>> >> > the engine is probably in pretty rough shape.
>> We
>> >> > picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough
>> one
>> >> to
>> >> > load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was
>> starting
>> >> to
>> >> > grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down
>> the
>> >> > tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake
>> was
>> >> > rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn.
>> On
>> >> top
>> >> > of that I couldnt get any closer than about a
>> >> hundred
>> >> > yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it
>> up
>> >> and
>> >> > onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along
>> >> all
>> >> > the way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks
>> >> both
>> >> > outside and now inside the shop where Matt
>> started
>> >> to
>> >> > do some investigating into its condition. I was
>> >> out in
>> >> > the shop looking for something else tonight
>> when
>> >> the
>> >> > front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider
>> >> than a
>> >> > normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the
>> >> axle,
>> >> > instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on
>> me
>> >> that
>> >> > this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting #
>> >> C1878R,
>> >> > which as far as I can determine from the parts
>> >> > catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything
>> else
>> >> I
>> >> > should be looking for? It appears to have a
>> >> standard
>> >> > drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am
>> >> proud
>> >> > of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping
>> he
>> >> > might be following somewhat in the old man's
>> >> > footsteps!
>> >> >
>> >> > John Boehm
>> >> > Woodland, CA
>> >> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
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