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[DAVIESW739 at aol.com]

In a message dated 8/12/2004 6:35:39 PM Pacific  Daylight Time, 
gremaux at tein.net writes:
my turn Walt....
first if you took  the forms off while the truck was still there.....how did
you pick up the  mess......cause it would not stand upright that soon
....next morning yes but  not while the truck was still there.
Agreed that cured in the air is  best

Frank I don't know how wet your pour your concrete But I have worked  in it 
for over 40 years and I alway pull the forms right away not the next day  as i 
don't like to pry them off with a sledge hammer.  I don't know who you  work 
for but I bet its like the stuff we get out here now sloppy wet with no  
strength. The dryer the concrete the stronger it will be that's what I was  taught 
and none of you will ever change my mind on that. I have seen wet  concrete 
poured where it flaked off until there was nothing left. You only get  cracks 
from freezing if water can get into the concrete simple logic.  Also  to stop 
cracking then besure that you have a solid foundation to put it on. Sand  or or 
small gravel is not enough you need a good rock base start with large ones  
then add the smaller size up to the top of the base where sand and or gravel can  
be used. 


Walt Davies
Cooper Hollow Farm
Monmouth, OR  97361
503 623-0460