[AT] another new shop

[Frank]

my turn Walt....
first if you took the forms off while the truck was still there.....how did
you pick up the mess......cause it would not stand upright that soon
....next morning yes but not while the truck was still there.
Agreed that cured in the air is best

1 inch slump is too much according to state testing labs here......but most
everything is done at 2 inch.....1 inch would not come out of the truck.
guess what .....a hot load came back today because it was not
accepted.......used it up in the yard.

also one came back that had too much air in it......and no one said a
word....we don't scream....you are the customer!!.
hasn't happened in a long time as we mostly have the best!

Cement in this part of the country will crack....eventually.....freeze
factors



Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
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> I had a wonderful old book on concrete and  mortar I gave it to a friend a
> few years back. It was made by the old timers who  new how to pour good
concrete
> without any trouble. One thing that it said was to  make sure that the
> concrete was not to wet or it would crack.  You are  supposed to do a
slump test
> when the load arrives. Take a pillar mold 12 X 12 X  12 with an 8 X 8 top.
Pour
> the cement into it then immediately remove the mold  the concrete should
only
> slump about 1 in. If its like most of the loads we get  now it will run
all
> over the place. I used to work with my uncle back in the 50s  building
houses we
> would pour the whole foundation and while the last truck was  cleaning up
we
> started to tear down the wood forms. I have been in some of the  garages
that
> we pours back then and they are still in the same nice condition  that we
left
> them in.
> My grandfather always did the finishing he would  start at one corner with
a
> pad to kneel on and a large finishing tool and a bag  of pure cement. He
would
> work the concrete to bring the water to the top then  add the pure
concrete
> and then trowel it in to give a very fine smooth surface,  you could skate
> barefoot on these big pads when he was though with them. Now we  tend to
not have
> them quite so slick as a lot people were hurt slipping on  them.  We never
> used any rebar or netting and they never cracked that shows  what a good
job they
> were when we poured them.
> I remember one time when  Uncle Bob went out put his hand on the side of
the
> cement load and then told the  driver to take it back. He had showed up
late
> and the truck load was hot to the  touch, uncle Bob said he wasn't paying
for
> hot concrete as would never setup  properly. I bet if you did that today
they
> would scream all over the  place.
>
>
> Walt Davies
> Cooper Hollow  Farm
> Monmouth, OR 97361
> 503 623-0460
>
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