[AT] Two Allis Chalmers U's

David Bruce davidbruce at yadtel.net
Fri Apr 30 15:30:39 PDT 2004 

The D-14 here is a wide front.  I've got the two row cultivator that was 
designed for it and a pick-up disk harrow.
I remember plowing at night with it (3 14 CA plow - and I still have it 
and the owner's manual that goes with it).  Nothing like those Buda 
engines - nothing sounds the same).

charlie hill wrote:

> I grew up on a D-10.  I never drove a D-14 until I traded a guy a D-10 for
> the D-14 that is now my working tractor.  That was about 10 years ago.  I
> sure wish we had one back when we were farming.  It is amazing to me that
> the D-14, with the same engine as the D-10, will do so much more work.  I
> have two other D-14's including the rusty one.  I intend to restore one or
> both of them some day depending on how many parts I can find.  The rusty one
> is some what unique in that it is a single front wheel version.  That is why
> the orriginal owner didn't like it.  He said it turned over easily.
> Allis made a lot of single front wheel tractors but only 54 single front
> wheel D-14's.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Two Allis Chalmers U's
> 
> 
> 
>>Charlie,
>>My Grandpa's D-14 has been in a shed when not used (I've even got the
>>side panels that everyone took off).  Mechanically it neeeds a few
>>things fixed but it is the tractor I learned to drive when I was about
>>7.  I've just learned of someone local who does restorations - my other
>>tractors are work tractos so they probably won't get the full treatment
>>but the D-14 may get the full work up (it and my Massey 35 are the best
>>tractors I've ever driven).
>>
>>charlie hill wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Grant I have a D-14 that sat in a field for about 15 years.  It was in
> 
> good
> 
>>>condition when it was parked the guy just didn't like the tractor for
> 
> some
> 
>>>reason and parked it and wouldn't sell it.  He finally died and I bought
> 
> it
> 
>>>from his family.   EVERY bit of paint is rusted off of it.  The seat has
>>>holes rusted in it.  The headlights are rusted out.  The gas tank is
>>>probably shot.  You get the idea.
>>>
>>>It is humid down here.  45% is a dry day.  80 % is probably below
> 
> average
> 
>>>and 95 - 100 % is common.  That and the heat takes a heavy toll.
>>>
>>>Charlie
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Grant Weir" <grantweird at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Two Allis Chalmers U's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Charlie,
>>>>
>>>>   I don't know how long those tractors have been out there in the
>>>>elements, but I think at least 20 or 30 years.  They are rather well
>>>>preserved arent they?  Perhaps having all those trees and shrubs so
>>>
>>>tightly
>>>
>>>
>>>>packed around them helps some.  The air does tend to be quite dry up
> 
> here
> 
>>>>for most of the year, although every other tractor I have worked on has
>>>
>>>had
>>>
>>>
>>>>little or no paint left on it at all so who knows.  I don't know if the
>>>>weather up here qualifies as "severe", although it does get rather cold
>>>>during the winter months, which sometimes causes problems with water
>>>>freezing in blocks, rads, and gear-boxes.  I'll bet the state of the
>>>>tractors is more due to being shaded from the sunlight than anything
> 
> else.
> 
>>>>Also, I think AC used some pretty good paint too.  Maybe Mother Nature
> 
> is
> 
>>>>into AC's - she does seem to give em' a bit of a break.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>Grant Weir
>>>>Saskatoon, SK.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>>>>>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>
>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Two Allis Chalmers U's
>>>>>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:00:13 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>Grant,  how long do you think those U's have been sitting in that
> 
> field?
> 
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>can't get over how good shape they are in.  Considering the severe
>>>
>>>weather
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you have up there it would seem like they would be destroyed.  I guess
>>>
>>>heat
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and humid, sometimes salty, air are worse on old stuff than that cold
> 
> dry
> 
>>>>>air you have up your way.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a nice find.  I hope you can get your hands on them.... and soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Charlie
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Grant Weir" <grantweird at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: [AT] Two Allis Chalmers U's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Last fall, Dad and I found an Allis Chalmers U on rubber on an
>>>>>
>>>>>abandoned
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>yard site out near the home place.   The owner had fairly recently
>>>>>
>>>>>bought
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the place and did not know it was there.  This spring he finally got
>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>there to have a look and promptly called Dad back to tell him that
>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>were actually TWO Allis U's out there!   He also mentioned that his
>>>
>>>sons
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>might want to restore them so he would be keeping them for now - but
>>>>>
>>>>>check
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>back in a couple of years.
>>>>>>  Last weekend I took the digital out for a drive and stopped by the
>>>>>
>>>>>place
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to see if I could find this hidden tractor we had missed.  I felt it
>>>
>>>was
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>mildly embarrasing that I had actually missed a find that was right
>>>>>
>>>>>there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>under my nose, and wanted to see some proof.  :-)  Well, it is there
>>>>>>alright, but man is it ever deep into the bushes!  No wonder I
>>>
>>>couldn't
>>>
>>>
>>>>>find
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the darn thing the first time out.  I almost bashed my shins on it
>>>>>
>>>>>before
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>saw it.  Whew!
>>>>>>  There was one other thing that I thought was pretty cool - both of
>>>>>
>>>>>these
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>tractors serial numbers differ by only three numbers!  Pretty wild eh?
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>have a notion that Dad and I will be the new owners of these tractors
>>>>>
>>>>>sooner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>than later.  Hopefully we can get them this summer.   Check the link
>>>>>
>>>>>below
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>for some snapshots of the things I saw on Sunday.  Neat stuff!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>http://groups.msn.com/GrantsOldTractorGoodies/sundaymorningcruise.msnw?alb
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>>>mlist=2
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>>>
>>>>>>Grant Weir
>>>>>>Saskatoon, SK.
>>>>>>Canada
>>>>>>
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