[AT] Names that have become generic

Sun Apr 4 20:47:15 PDT 2004

Charlie, I had a little bit of an advantage in that my dad had started
working with computers in the mid 50's and in 1962 he was a physics teacher
at a high school in the Los Angeles area. The computer I "played" with was
the first computer at a high school in Southern California and it was a
Bendix G-15 (yes, that Bendix!) donated by Control Data Corp after my dad
talked them into doing so. They had purchased the computers operation that
Bendix had had in the 50's in 1961 so this was a used unit. As I remember it
was about the size of  two standard desks stacked on top of each other. Yes,
the primary means of data and program input was paper tape and punch cards.
    But as I remember there was an operator's console with a teletype
keyboard! I actually input programs and did other things that I don't now
remember.... So, yes you are right this was VERY unusual to have a three
year old around a computer of any kind.
        Grant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic


> What sort of computers were you boys using in '62?  There weren't any hand
> held calculators unitl about 68 and they were hundreds of dollars each to
*
> / + - and hold one constant.   The computer science guys I went to college
> with in the late 60's were using Univac machines.   They spent most of
their
> time punching holes in cards and the pile of cards for a simple program
was
> bigger than a small desktop computer of today.
>
> I just didn't know they let 3 year olds play with those things Grant.
>
> Were we THAT backwards here in NC?   I don't think so.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grant Brians" <gbrians at hollinet.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 2:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
>
>
> > Ok, so you and Dean started out in Computers in 1961. I was born in 1959
> and
> > have been using computers since 1962.... Hmm. Oh and I work with them
for
> a
> > living in addition to using them for Antique Tractor list reading. I
think
> > driving tractor (non-computerized) is what I will do again tomorrow just
> > like this evening....
> >      By the way to get back to antique farm machinery, tomorrow I will
be
> > planting with a 1955 Oliver Super77 Diesel and a 1930 something Iron
Wheel
> > John Deere Van Brunt drill.
> >     Yesterday I was refurbishing 1949 aluminum sprinkler irrigation pipe
> > originally assembled in San Jose and Milpitas, California that will now
be
> > used for another 50 years probably. Next week I plan to chop the old
buoy
> in
> > half with the torch and turn it into two planters for my mom. I guess
that
> > just goes to show that many of us on this list like to recycle and reuse
> and
> > have liked to do that long before it became politically correct. Of
course
> > there are a lot of people these days who do not get the value of
recycling
> > and reusing, but we do!
> >               Grant Brians
> >               Hollister California
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kiser, Rick" <rkiser at islandhospital.org>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
> >
> >
> > > Sounds like you started in computers back when I did, 1961. Those were
> > > the days when everything that resembled a computer was a Univac.
> > >
> > > RickinNW-WA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dean VP [mailto:deanvp at att.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:06 PM
> > > To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> > > Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
> > >
> > > Dudley:
> > >
> > > I spent a part of my career designing analog computers because they
> > > could
> > > solve certain problems faster than the digital computers then
available.
> > > But
> > > it didn't take long for me to convert from analog computers to digital
> > > computers. Some parts of our lexicon just have to be left behind.  :-)
> > >
> > > I doubt anyone would even know what an analog computer is today! I
still
> > > like analog watches and speedometers. The world is really analog.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > >
> > > CRS = Having a Photographic Memory but a shortage of unused film.
> > >
> > > www.deerelegacy.com
> > >
> > > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dudley
Rupert
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:29 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
> > >
> > > Cycles will always be cycles per second (cps) rather than hertz
> > > (I am in a nit picky mood)
> > >
> > > Dudley
> > > Snohomish, Washington
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Howard R.
> > > Weeks
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:26 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
> > >
> > >
> > > To me, they will always be condensers rather than capacitors.
> > > They were condensers in all the old reference books 20s - 50s.
> > >
> > > Cycles will always be cycles rather than hertz.
> > >
> > > Howard Weeks
> > > Harlem, GA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: Larry D. Goss <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> > > To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:26 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem is some of you guys are just too danged young.  You think
> > > that because you learned a particular name for a device when you were
in
> > > school it must have always been named that.  My dad referred to "those
> > > things" as condensers when he was discussing electronics with me back
in
> > > the late 40's.  He finally learned to call them capacitors when it
> > > became politically correct to do so.  That was sometime after he
started
> > > working with transistors in the late 50's.  BTW- Dad never did learn
to
> > > refer to AIEE instead of IEEE.  He called it the "eye triple-E" until
> > > the day he died.  In the mid-50's we called those things condensers
when
> > >
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